tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post1924004892355497335..comments2022-04-05T12:37:22.901-07:00Comments on Welcome to South Austin: Hattie ValdezAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10895795045418438490noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-28534913229253338022019-06-14T23:24:48.552-07:002019-06-14T23:24:48.552-07:00I helped Eli move some of her furniture after she ...I helped Eli move some of her furniture after she passed away <br /> I met her once. Eli was a neighbor Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09791003851209088814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-35697358202670446412019-01-29T22:05:09.584-08:002019-01-29T22:05:09.584-08:00Hattie did live on Eastside Drive, When I was a ki...Hattie did live on Eastside Drive, When I was a kid I lived at 2203 Eastside Drive just a couple blocks down from her house she had the coolest front door it was burnt-orange with the doorknob right in the middle of the door, from age 7-10 I earned money doing yard work in my neighborhood in the summer, I would cut Hattie's grass once a week if it needed it or not that's what she told me, then I would weed and clean up her cactus/rock garden that was out by the curb on the corner. She was always nice to me she would make me lunch after I finished - always a sandwich and chips with 3 dollars tucked under the plate, for the yard work, I charged two dollars but she always gave me three bucks. People gossiped I knew about her business but I didn't care. She was A Classy lady in my book. D CarpenterD Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12222393674487222916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-31712330748616938192018-12-23T12:08:46.880-08:002018-12-23T12:08:46.880-08:00My Great Uncle, Father Patrick Duffy, founded St. ...My Great Uncle, Father Patrick Duffy, founded St. Ignatius and all us Moore boys went there and were also altar boys. I remember when the new school and convent were built on Oltorf. The land was donated by old man Gillis. Gillis Park was named after him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09274429619124033947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-83167701891558500982018-03-22T21:04:55.401-07:002018-03-22T21:04:55.401-07:00Hello Five-O, I think you’re right, it was Pleasen...Hello Five-O, I think you’re right, it was Pleasent Hill, not Pleasant valley. We lived in the old stagecoach house up on the hill across the road from the elementary school. That house was so neat. It had like seven rooms, all opening onto a long wooden porch. At one end was the kitchen and a small bathroom. At the very front of the house was the original entrance that had a big breezeway type room. On either side of that was a huge room with a huge fireplace. I think there were like three or four fireplaces total. I found out years later that It was torn down and I thought what a shame, that was a real landmark of an earlier time.Been Therehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352308031008385044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-69301471693369359502017-07-10T13:57:43.337-07:002017-07-10T13:57:43.337-07:00Hatties was your Aunt? Hatties was your Aunt? Old Town Gardenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06476331548986768702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-58319703814954034312017-07-10T13:44:37.382-07:002017-07-10T13:44:37.382-07:00EDIT: Hatties mothers grandson.EDIT: Hatties mothers grandson.Old Town Gardenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06476331548986768702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-89018096104904443362017-07-10T13:43:30.630-07:002017-07-10T13:43:30.630-07:00How funny! My grandpa was Hatties grandson. I ha...How funny! My grandpa was Hatties grandson. I had no idea of Hatties profession until now. I am at this moment sitting at the Austin Memorial Park cemetery. I live in Oregon, and since doing research on Ancestery.com I learned my 3rd great grandmother was buried here. I'm visiting my daughter, so had to come visit the cemetery. Who knew I was related to the richest madam in Austin! 🤔😂Old Town Gardenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06476331548986768702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-48283655167530086382017-06-15T07:01:37.618-07:002017-06-15T07:01:37.618-07:00I lived in the house on Riverside Drive and I used...I lived in the house on Riverside Drive and I used to walk to the Capitol with my daddy cuz he served in the legislature had he was my aunt I'm short like her and I sound just like herAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279041323009438492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-78256403881830110342017-06-15T06:48:06.993-07:002017-06-15T06:48:06.993-07:00My maiden name was Shipley if you look under the l...My maiden name was Shipley if you look under the legislature I think it was a 61st or 62nd legislature you will see pictures of my father and me and two of my brothers my oldest brother couldn't be in the picture but price Daniels was like the Speaker of the House back then wow this this is really weird I'd love to hook up with the Valdez su wow this this is really weird I'd love to hook up with the Valdez sun and learn a lot more about my aunt Hattie when she pass I loved her she was something else and I've got that horse voice like she does cuz I smokeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279041323009438492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-8587048478600216912017-06-15T06:46:20.362-07:002017-06-15T06:46:20.362-07:00This is an interesting Blogspot this was my aunt m...This is an interesting Blogspot this was my aunt my dad started the Texas state legislature and we lived in that house across from Hattie's place when my dad was in session I used to ride around with her and Eli and her Rose Royce she babysat meAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11279041323009438492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-41609050073646916062014-03-17T12:34:17.935-07:002014-03-17T12:34:17.935-07:001950 as a second semester freshman at UT we used t...1950 as a second semester freshman at UT we used to take our friends out to Hattie's Butt Hut on South Congress. Wild, crazy times for innocent young boys trying to be a man.The Railhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11658414569008486579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-36429404070045945432014-02-06T10:23:50.276-08:002014-02-06T10:23:50.276-08:00I know that my father and his buddy used to go to ...I know that my father and his buddy used to go to Hattie's before they got married (and maybe afterward for all I know) because I overheard them talking about it once when they thought I was still too young to know what they were talking about.Edwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13167791789970141467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-86562101410001337432013-08-29T09:38:13.604-07:002013-08-29T09:38:13.604-07:00You are correct, Webbie did go to the federal pen ...You are correct, Webbie did go to the federal pen but he's been out for some time now. His 90th birthday is this October. As his grandson, I intend to spend some time with him in the next few weeks making a video diary of his life experiences... Hopefully I can get him to elaborate and perhaps even get some names from the little black book.<br />As for the Flanagan kids, the boys all had there own trouble here and there but his daughters stayed out of it. TrevorBabyakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00562775527641055182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-45659732337274173932013-08-16T23:41:42.859-07:002013-08-16T23:41:42.859-07:00Hello,"Been There" do you mean Pleasant ...Hello,"Been There" do you mean Pleasant Hill? They used to call Hattie's lawyer... Webbie Flanagan...Flanigan defended the who's who of crooks in and around Austin..Webbie I am pretty sure went to the federal pen...I remember in the mid 60's Flanagan lived in Mission<br />Hills Subdivision...I had been riding my bi<br />ke over to his home and playing with his kids...My dad asked me at the the dinner table one evening what I had done that day...I told him I had met a real nice family named the Flanigans and had been playing at their house...He about choked on his food...He put a stop to any further visitsFive-0https://www.blogger.com/profile/12060116324745815589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-20997091076406748172013-08-16T23:34:32.324-07:002013-08-16T23:34:32.324-07:00Five-0 says...Hello,"Been There" do you ...Five-0 says...Hello,"Been There" do you mean Pleasant Hill? They used to call Hattie's lawyer... Webbie Flanagan...Flanigan defended the who's who of crooks in and around Austin..Webbie I am pretty sure went to the federal pen...I remember in the mid 60's Flanagan lived in Mission<br />Hills Subdivision...I had been riding my bi<br />ke over to his home and playing with his kids...My dad asked me at the the dinner table one evening what I had done that day...I told him I had met a real nice family named the Flanigans and had been playing at their house...He about choked on his food...He put a stop to any further visits to the Flanigan houseFive-0https://www.blogger.com/profile/12060116324745815589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-61954928185843990422011-03-19T23:05:56.731-07:002011-03-19T23:05:56.731-07:00A few corrections. Hattie's last name was Vald...A few corrections. Hattie's last name was Valdes, with an "S", not Valdez, with a Z. It was the house at 5906 South Congress that burned. That one was closed in 1960 and she continued operations at M&M Courts, further south, until 1965. It's not true that she only employed out of town girls. That was a little story she fiction she made up and the local press ran with it, along with a number of other convenient fictions. Her lawyer friend's name was John Webster Flanagan, not Bob. During her last years she lived in a house on Eastside Drive, not the Riverside residence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-56919432664314214152011-03-08T01:31:15.669-08:002011-03-08T01:31:15.669-08:00There are photos of Hattie at a site called "...There are photos of Hattie at a site called "Does you 'member when? Austin, Texas Version's Photos".<br />https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=483386435851&set=a.370352810851.158006.370348560851&theater <br />In the mid 70s I was one of Hattie's private nurses the last few months of her life. Unfortunately she wouldn't talk about that notorious part of her life. At the time, TX Monthly had an article titled " TX Historical Landmarks You'll Never See", or something like that. Knowing she didn't like to talk about it, I finally got up the nerve to ask her if she had a place called Hattie's Place, but her only response was, "s___t". What I remember is she had several very devoted "girls" who doted on her and she always tried to get me to stop smoking. I liked the old gal.<br />CaroleCarolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409908418365636823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-61968694354231545232011-02-18T18:36:10.390-08:002011-02-18T18:36:10.390-08:00I bought an old house on Riverside Dr. in 1992. It...I bought an old house on Riverside Dr. in 1992. It was Hattie's old residence. A neighbor gave me a file of newspaper clippings and memoirs of Hattie's which sparked my interest in her story. I went to the Austin history center and gathered more pieces of the puzzle. I install tile for a living and frequently have clients who have lived in Austin for many years. I always ask the old timers if they know of Hattie and about 95% do. I have heard many crazy stories regarding Hattie for instance; she catered the sheriff convention, she putt the "party" in Democratic party, she brought her "girls" from out of state to "earn" their college tuition,her old lawyer Bob Flanagan and how she slowed down the expansion of Austin city limits in order to keep her house outside the city limits. She held out until her "house of ill repute" burned down. Her daughter is still alive in a convent in Baltimore.<br /><br />The house I live in was one of three she owned. When she died she left them all to her daughter who then sold all three to her cousin for $15,000. Hattie's ex-husband (Valdez) cut hair on Congress the same street Hattie ran her operations on. I didn't know about her 1405 E. Riverside Place.<br /><br />Hattie's first of many arrests was in 1955 by her buddy Sheriff T. O. Lang. She retired in the late 60s after a near "old west style" gun battle with the wannabe extortionists The Overton Gang at the not so glamorous M&M Courts on S. Congress. One of my older neighbors went to a garage sale after she closed down where there was a vast array of high heeled shoes for sale and then noticed that it was Hattie's garage sale.<br /><br />The one thing I don't have is a picture of Hattie. If someone has a photo of her, I'd love to see it. There seems to be no mug shots of her downtown. <br /><br />-GaryUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11742939435978445481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-90391188019173546982011-01-18T08:15:16.378-08:002011-01-18T08:15:16.378-08:00And if you remember like I do that house on South ...And if you remember like I do that house on South Congress burned to the ground. Never knew if it was intentionally set. I know this because we lived off mathews lane and you had to turn on ebberhart ln, to get there right where the house was on the hill. she also worked out of the old M & M courts farther out South Congress. A little known fact. Hattie's daughter was a nun. I attended St Ignatius school and 1 year she (her daughter) won the grand prize for the raffle. A color TV. Hattie always bought tickets for the raffle from the Bazaar St. Ignatius put on every year.I could go on but that's enough for now. As far as I'm concerned she was a decent person, always treated everyone well.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138442267153739858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931493344171458832.post-48435075576830409092009-07-26T15:47:40.815-07:002009-07-26T15:47:40.815-07:00I lived out in Pleasant Valley in the early 1960s ...I lived out in Pleasant Valley in the early 1960s with my parents and an older brother. Every time he gave anyone directions on how to get to our house, he would say "take South Congress out of town past Hattie's Place and turn left at the next road, by Pleasant Valley Elementary School.<br />Reading your web page is the fist that I knew that Hattie had more than one house. The one she had out on South Congress was on the right hand side of the road (going south) a big two or three story dark green house.<br /><br />Thanks for the information.Been Therehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352308031008385044noreply@blogger.com